48 replies to this topic

[annihilator]

ok for some reason ive been banned for rates?? i dont even know what that is, i played this morning with matha and bound and people and i never got accused of rates or whatever that is, and when i just went on then i got banned for it??

[DeViL_DoG]

you have been playing long enough to know what rates are so dont come b/s with us

as far as im concerned the ban stays dirty rate hacker

[annihilator]

fine i stay banned but i honestly dont know what rates r, every1 who plays css dont have to know everything about it we just play it for fun, i aint changed nething i come on every time and just play the game, if u think im a cheat and do know stuff about rates then fine but i dont so i have no idea why u think i cheat some times and dont others

[DeViL_DoG]

these rates dont change by themselvs u have to go in console to change them

and u were told 3 times by admin to change them and not 1 of us got a response from u

[annihilator]

oh well shows how much u know as i aint changed anything and u think i rate hack cya

[PyRo]

bye

[stoner]

rate hackers are scum of the earth !!!

sad fuckin cheating wankers infact!!!

annihilator you deserve to b skull fucked!!!

bye bye and good riddance...

[TheTemp]

I thought your rates changed according to different factors such as connection speed etc, is this not true ?

Some people say you should adjust your rates accordingly to eliminate choke/loss to get a good connection.

What's acceptable and what isn't ? we need some clarity here.

[DeViL_DoG]

his rates if im not mistaken were 5000

the min rate on the server is 10000

the 5000 rate he had was a joke so good ridence to bad rubish

[GearChange]

i think the game sets by default
rate 7500
cl_cmdrate 30
cl_updaterate 20

so anything lower than this is dirty scum rate hacking

[PyRo]

I think the default rates also have something to do with where the client is so I accept 7500 unless its causing problems to anyone

Lower than that and its "Please Come Again!"

[Viz0r]

im with pyro, if the guy has a rate of 7500 and a score of 3-3 then he aint hurting anyone, but if hes up with a bad ass score then well an excuse to make myself feel better for sucking!

[24thfret]

I haven't touched my rates at all, here are mine (at default)

rate 25000
cl_cmdrate 80
cl_updaterate 80

No wonder I can't shoot you hacking twats half the time!

[stoner]

strange default that

mine was

20 30 20000

my ping is shit on 3mb ntl

[TheShipsMast]

oh joys...

everyone, yes EVERYONE should be using different rates, because everyone has a different connection. You should use the netgraph tool to see if you get loss or choke.

if you do, then change your rates until you dont.

choke is packet collision and packets arriving in the wrong order
loss is simply that, the packet never arrives..

[TheTemp]

Shippy,

Can this not be abused though? people can alter there rates to effect their performance relative to other players on the server, thus making them harder to hit etc?

This is what we need to establish. What's acceptable and what isn't?

How can we judge whether someone has altered their rates to improve their choke/loss, or to cheat?

[TheShipsMast]

yes it can be abused.. double edged sword..

anything less than 7500 30 20 and they are rate hacking or using a modem. If the ping is below 150, its the former of the two!

I change all rates on my server when people join. They either accept the change or they get disconnected.

I set minimums of 12000 40 40. Everyone on broadband can use those as a starting point. And anyone with a ping of over 150 gets kicked anyway on my server, so dont get any 56k'ers anymore!

[phat-ant]

Yup shippy is right, everyones rates are different depending on so many things.

and personally im a little sick of the rate witch hunt.

[tef]

shippy - if we move over to linux, can this be implemented on the BIATCH server, or is it just something u do manually?

[MrChris]

tbh unless they habve a 56kbps modem (which they wont cos they will get kicked for uber ping) then their rates should all comply with a good broadband one...no cmd less than 30 tbh but rate should be around 10k or higher (tbh having lower rates kinda fucks up the game for the player as well so theres no excuse) however it is a bit weird cos some admins can change a users config entirely and have an eforcement on their server whereas any member joinging automatically gets their rates changed...just some useless info..i doubt annih knows what rates are...i had to investigate deeply to find out for myself...